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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:59 pm 
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Hi, I was wondering and it does kind of seem stupid saying it to other people but I wondered if anyone has ever created another 'next life' as if it was to be in another PMR. (By next life I mean a sort of direction and probable course of experience, not a complete map) It may be easy to dismis it as 'entertainment', but I have learnt much from this kind of thought exercise as it gives a basic idea of understanding experiences, their intensities and relative negative/positive structures. Whats more important however is seeing your current life and the 'another' in the bigger picture reality. It makes the current life more enjoyable as the slow gind of repetive experience and uncertainty is unique and there is no rush to get it done, as one will be experiencing experiences for infinity, I suppose Ekart Tolle greatly ellaborates on this, live each moment so to speak. As you pass and are able to observe your current life experience you can fine tune an experience that isnt possible in the current PMR and move it over to the next life. What you may find interesting or completely stupid is trying to see the experiences of a third life that isnt in influence of your current life but can only be made by the second lifes ambition.

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Well, I don't know if this counts or not. My mom was a nurse and was always upset at how the doctors treated the nurses. She was a brilliant woman and would have been a doctor if circumstances had been different. She swore up and down for 20 years that she was coming back to be a doctor. I believed her. She died a pretty slow agonizing death. I always wondered if it served a purpose to give her more empathy for patients when she became a doctor next time around.


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That sounds like an automatic process that we do not need to think about because that is how it happens already, like Evolution of Consciousness, that is at the IUOC level happening as we speak.

Remember real things are finite, okay?
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Sorry to hear about your mum Sainbury, sounds like she had strong intent on her future.

Bette how does finite fit into that? :/

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It makes the current life more enjoyable as the slow gind of repetive experience and uncertainty is unique and there is no rush to get it done, as one will be experiencing experiences for infinity, I suppose Ekart Tolle greatly ellaborates on this, live each moment so to speak.
Here you go Chris, sorry I called you harvey. My memory for some stuff is like an aluminum sieve. How finite fits.
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we cease to be experiencing beings?

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A "real" thing, system, whatever, is finite as that is a requirement (why I am not sure). At some point in my model our IUOC does learn everything it can possibly learn from the VRs we can access, and stops existing as separate from the next larger up system. Not all at the same time though, so there will always be those in progress existing. No one can know if when that meld I speak of happens (if it happens) then another opportunity for Evolution opens up; therefore I think that fractal thingie is where the fact that something freaking has to be real, and MBT concept/model is the most useful thing EVER, the Larger Consciousness System is REAL, and anything real is finite because that means we can know what is real. This makes perfect sense to me, and also sounds circular, and like magical thinking. That's why it has to be REAL for you, for each of us, but close enough to each other than we can agree, come to consensus, and talk about how freaking real it is, and stuff. Reality, capital "R."
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I'm sure that it is possible for more advanced beings to do just that - in fact, it may be more efficient to do so when one becomes some percentage of the quality of AUM. I believe Tom explicitly states this somewhere in his work.

The reason that AUM is not infinite is that the concept of infinity is a intellectual abstraction - like absolutes.


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I'm sure that it is possible for more advanced beings to do just that - in fact, it may be more efficient to do so when one becomes some percentage of the quality of AUM. I believe Tom explicitly states this somewhere in his work.

The reason that AUM is not infinite is that the concept of infinity is a intellectual abstraction - like absolutes.
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I understand like 'perfection' or ideal types.

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Actually the place of planning for next lives is in NPMR. There integration of the just past life and lessons learned is a focus. An idea may start here in PMR, but it will be brought to fruition, or not, with planning in NPMR and may already exist there in the general planning. Your plans and purposes, your point of view here, is not the same as it will be and is in your continuous experience within NPMR. You here are the point of the spear of your own developmental efforts, but the driving forces and understanding of the scope of your real needs and best plan of development are within your total being acting through your NPMR awareness.

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Thankyou as always

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Ted Vollers wrote:
but the driving forces and understanding of the scope of your real needs and best plan of development are within your total being acting through your NPMR awareness.


This may be confusing for some. I think you meant "within your total being acting through your higher self NPMR awareness". If IUOCs act through FWAUs NPMR awareness they may find themselves quite lost.

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Claudio,

Go back and read Tom's descriptions where the Venn diagrams were used and the long discussion about the relationships between the parts we were modeling based upon. NPMR is a Virtual Reality, just like PMR is, but with a much different rule set and purpose than PMR. There our experience is continuous and without the interruptions of PMR experience packets or rebirths and intermittent experience with different identities and usually different personalities. You do still change and develop your QoC and lower your entropy but at a much slower rate than during the high intensity PMR interactions. The experience of VRs is assigned to Virtual Selves or FWAUs.

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