Can sexual fantasizing affect the person being fantasized about?

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Can sexual fantasizing affect the person being fantasized about?

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In the opinions of MBT theory, and of the users interacting on this forum, can sexual fantasizing affect the person being fantasized about? Say someone has dark fantasies about a person, are they negatively psychically affecting them? Or say someone is a porn star, are they opening themselves up to all kinds of psychic energies due to all the various thoughts being directed at them?

I ask this mainly because after learning about and experiencing how interconnected we all are, I don't feel fully comfortable with my own sexual thoughts. Although they aren't "dark" or violent, they often involve people who I am not romantically involved with, and this makes me feel like a bit of an "intruder" into that person's energy field. I am slightly paranoid that I am sending these people unwelcome thought energy.

Any thoughts? I'm not sure if this is neurotic or compassionate.
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I thought about this as well.
For any thought not just fantasies. I imagine its how strong you focus your intent directly at that person.

I've noticed if the person I've fantasised about starts dating seriously I cant fantasise much about them anymore, like the link is broke if they were interested in me also.

And sometimes just fantasising about someone intensely, I then start to see them about more and more and sometimes end up dating and they tell me thyey were thinking about me with the same kind of fantasises. :)

Its fun if your both into it. But if its not mutual? The other person maybe gets an intrusive flash thought about you that they can either ignore,block or just shake off. But theyll process it and pick it up depending on thier mindset. I've picked up on flashes of some pretty disturbing stuff that some people think but I just shake it off and it happens rarely and its only been when the person is close by or next to me. Its usually the feeling more than the image.
Its mostly mutual stuff you pick up on.

I imagine celebrities must have the most experience in this.
But I think our fantasises are often fantasy people. The image and idea of that person is our minds isnt really who they really are so your really just thinking about your own idea of the person so it doesnt hurt them. Almost like a temporary entity.

But if the person likes you back or if your deliberately intending to send them something it might cross thier mind. It works stronger for me if an ex or someone I'm involved with is thinking about me because theres more of a real link. Or someone you know in real life.

Pornstars are more likely to be affected by each others energy.

I'd like to know more about it.
I think if its just a sexual fantasy you wanna indulge in then its more likely to be a fantasy figure your affecting and interacting with so its fine.

But if your genuinely interested in someone too maybe send them are you interested thought and go to sleep and see if they send you any of thier fantasies you can have fun with in the astral maybe more. ha!

I remember Tom saying something about turning off connections and thoughts you dont want. I'll try find video.

Maybe like the internet, its only if you choose to click on it you know.

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Focused Intent can effect the Probable Future Database. But it is doubtful that your fantasies, say about an actress, would effect her negatively. Your fantasies aren't about anything negative and wouldn't be strong enough to do anything. But say a group got together regularly and focused strong Intent on someone getting sick - that might have an effect.

So, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Fantasies are a normal part of human sexuality.
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My experience is that you sometimes get what you focus on.

If you focus on a person of sexual interest, someone you actually know, they appear to pick up this
psychically. Maybe it only occurs where there are conditions for transmission and reception.

A previous interest may initiate contact if you focus on them. This may or may not be welcome contact.

Your resident partner may appear to be responding to any thoughts you are focussing on. This can be complicated. You may not wish your partner to have the image planted in their mind of what you are focusing on.

While I was writing this my spouse did something which was strongly suggestive that she was picking up on my thoughts. This has given me an idea to try something. ; -)

I seem to recall Tom referring to intentional and unintentional psychic communication between family members. His kids scrambling their thoughts to avoid Tom “reading” their minds. Or mentally signalling the spouse to call by phone.
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I know you are aware of this but it is worth repeating if for no other reason but to "accentuate the positive". According to MBT and other theoretical models, we are here to grow up, lower our entropy, personally develop, peel back the layers of Self and accept that we are (spirit) an IUOC "hallucinating" (metaphor alert) a physical matter experience. We do this through self knowledge, it takes practice and willful intent. In doing so, our awareness and decision space increases.
lain wrote: Sun Apr 05, 2020 1:27 pm In the opinions of MBT theory, and of the users interacting on this forum, can sexual fantasizing affect the person being fantasized about?
Yes, the degree to which is dependent upon the level of entropy and the quality of consciousness at the causal local and acausal non-local level of reality of both entities to include intent.
Say someone has dark fantasies about a person, are they negatively psychically affecting them? Or say someone is a porn star, are they opening themselves up to all kinds of psychic energies due to all the various thoughts being directed at them?
Same answer as above. Further, this is an area of beliefs that are baked into the rule set. The question itself is an identification marker of self.
I ask this mainly because after learning about and experiencing how interconnected we all are, I don't feel fully comfortable with my own sexual thoughts. Although they aren't "dark" or violent, they often involve people who I am not romantically involved with, and this makes me feel like a bit of an "intruder" into that person's energy field. I am slightly paranoid that I am sending these people unwelcome thought energy.
Here is your level of fear marker. This could be the LCS nudging you towards personal development. Here is Tom's definition of fear: Fear is about SELF, ego and belief: I need, I want, I believe, I expect, I deserve. Ego, belief, self centeredness and expectations are the result of awareness acting on fear based intent; without fear the being and intellectual level become one, as fear decreases awareness and decision space increases."~Tom Campbell
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Probably all messages, unless your intent is strong enough, will not reach the person remotely. This is because the average person is simply not open to it consciously. They have barriers set up from their beliefs and expectations that define their reality and exclusively interpret input data from that. What can happen is that those thoughts or messages can reach them in an unconscious level or get mistranslated but it would again require a strong enough intent to enter their bubble, like from an OBE.

In one of Bob Monroe's books, he mentions one of the female explorers reporting picking up on passing sexual thoughts from some males in the room but that again was in the out of body experience where she was open to different forms of remote input.
I'm not sure if this is neurotic or compassionate.
Probably more neurotic.
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Theres all kinds of energies flowing around and u can effect things depending on how much u are harnessing energy. In subjectivity u can peform simulations with emotional content which would allow u to gain data on a particular situation if u wanted to know how the other person is feelign or what kind of respsonses u would get depending on teh nature of the circumstances, simulation in npmr is useful as it allows u to navigate multiple scenerios without having to actually be there in real life, the stimulation is roughly the same as real life, infact the data u recieve may be more varied as there are no emotional barriers like in pmr.

So these are good for putting urself in other peoples shoes, sharing expereinces that cannto be otherwise understood or just undertanidng somoens emotional baggage.

As iv said, the stimulations in npmr are as real as pmr and u are incharge of what kind of scenerios u want ot experience dpending on ur level

As u becom comfortable with npmr u will see that u can richocet energy from ther to pmr . Have fun
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Without a strong, focused intent on affecting the person in question, I wouldn't expect it to do anything either. As mentioned above, you're interacting with an idea of that person, not the person themself.
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