I think that you are 'onto something' as in developing a very useful way of stating this, the different aspects of the Void as it is interpreted. A PMR based approach and an NPMR based approach.
Try this as a perhaps expansion of this concept and explaining the differences. Would you agree that the PMR sided view you describe amounts to a closing off, a rejection of the PMR sense data and a cutting off of internal thought stream. Contrast this with the NPMR sided view of opening up to whatever offers, being open and receptive to new experience. Do these rephrasings agree with what you are saying?
There has been some discussion not long ago on the board with some disagreement as to Tom said this and Tom said that regarding the Void. I gave my explanation of the arising of these differences but did not think of as good a wording as I think you are heading towards here. It would be very difficult, for me, to find that thread again unless the person involved or someone who read it comes forward and points us to that discussion. I think these statements by you would be an addition to that discussion, expanding on and clarifying the nature of the Void.
That seems to be in agreement, yes. In either case, the void state involves a clear and focused mind. In the PMR centric version, that is about as far as you can take it - quiet stillness. However, if we are in a NPMR centric void state, that quiet stillness becomes a more tangible experience and can be interpreted based on the NPMR ruleset (less constraints). Again, we can be partly based in PMR and partly in NPMR. So we might be sitting in a good meditation state and start getting glimpses of the NPMR side - perhaps interpreted as floating, spinning, tumbling, sinking, 3D darkness, etc. The PMR side might contain more limited interpretations such as non-location and silent darkness. If we are fully based in NPMR in a void state, we might have the vivid experience of floating in a vast expanse of nothing. It is from the NPMR side that intent creates instant results. That is my limited experience anyway.
As far as I know, being in a void state does not mean that we are no longer bound by the rules of NPMR. So it seems logical that we are still based “in” (or “filed” under) the constraints of either NPMR or PMR - even if we are not receiving any of the data.
All of the same concepts hold true in my experience with transitioning between PMR & NPMR.
I think it was in the movie The Path: Beyond the Physical
that Tom used an analogy of trying to watch two TVs - each showing something completely different. If you don't know that there are two separate TVs or if you don't know how to differentiate one from the other, things seem pretty garbled and messy. In the case of being partly based in PMR and NPMR in a void state, It would maybe be like two TVs showing different versions of the same movie. Mix that with subjective interpretations and we end up with multiple descriptions of what the void state is and what if feels like.
The key thing for me is that the NPMR version of the void state has a very clear and distinct feeling of not being “in Kansas anymore."
Edit: I tend to think visually. Maybe these are helpful for others. These just show visually that our awareness can be in one or more reality at a time. In the case of the void state, it might be more accurate to say that we can be "based" in more than one reality at a time.
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