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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:08 am 
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The following article will be included in our latest issue of MBT Times soon to be sent out to all subscribers!
It's presented here for Tom's forum first!
If you wish to subscribe to our newsletter, please email Keith@mbtevents.com and ask to be signed up.
Please note there will be a bonus part to this article that will only appear in the newsletter!

Enjoy....and thanks, Dennis!


Once Upon a SpaceTime - A Long, Long SpaceTime Ago

Hello Dear Readers, Dennis here. Yup, it's that Dennis Mennerich you read about in MBT Book 1, Sect 1, Ch 6-12 or maybe met at the Toronto workshop. I will be attending the upcoming workshop in NYC.

Keith asked me to share some recollections about Tom and "The Early Days" that were not in MBT (nor Bob Monroe's 1985 book Far Journeys). I have no doubt that Tom and I were destined to meet. Although I did not realize it at the time, like Tom, I also had some OOBE as a child. We both gravitated towards mathematics and the sciences and ended up with graduate degrees working at the same place. I started there in 1971 and Tom joined in 1972. I had been on a personal quest for meaning for many years and had read many books on various religions and belief systems. Tom and I both learned TM meditation at UVA at the same time (early ‘71) but did not know each other then. (I brought an apple instead of a banana, which is why my initiator was a good looking redhead, probably Alfred E. Newman's wife.) I had already gotten to know Bill Yost (Tom's boss) who talked a group of us into attending a weekend Silva Mind Control seminar about Jan 1972, before we knew Tom. Silva used alpha rhythm sounds and various consciousness focusing techniques. Bill also gave me Bob's 1971 book Journeys Out Of The Body to read. So it seems that Bill, Tom and I were all intended to meet (there are no coincidences). Bill took Tom and me with an eclectic group from the Center (including many of the Silva attendees) out to Monroe's the spring of 1972 where Tom and I were "selected to volunteer" (twist of fate?) to help develop the Whistlefield Lab. The "Lab" was located in an ordinary trailer home on blocks at the top of a hill in a hayfield. Looking back, the fact that it had a metal covering may have been fortuitous - as an electromagnetic shield. I saw Tom a few weeks ago at TMI where he gave a keynote speech. It was amazing to see TMI as it is now and remember its humble beginnings in a trailer.

I think the meditation Tom and I had been practicing helped us to be able to clear our minds of noise and facilitate the altered states we were embarking upon. (Much later in my martial arts career, I realized that we were trying to achieve the state of Mushin) Tom began to see energy fields - auras - about things and people. As he also mentioned in MBT, we had built negative-ion generators but forgot to note that he could also see tiny red things shooting out of them. We attended a lecture at UVA given by the Dalai Lama. The large auditorium was packed full with no standing room left. Tom was sort of zoned out during the talk (but I was used to that). Afterwards he described to me that the Dali Lama had a vivid purple aura about him when the talk began. By the time the presentation was finished, his aura had expanded to immerse the entire audience. I, of course, having my feet firmly planted in the concrete of engineering at the time, did not see anything. I did see a very strong aura once at a later date. Tom and I were on similar paths with different time references. We all grow in our own way at our own time. We are still comrades in the pursuit of the Big Truth. And he still has that great stealthy sense of humor. ‘Ooga! Ooga! I have to debug the bias errors in my human behavior analysis algorithms' (Ch 6).
There is a tight curving 270⁰ exit ramp from the interstate that we often took coming back late at night from Whistlefield. I still think of this every time I use it. As described in MBT, we frequently rode together on Tom's motorcycle. He would take this exit somewhat above the recommended speed (ha!) and I can still see the sparks flying from the metal center stand as it dragged along the road. (Don't try this at home, kids. We were young and foolish and bulletproof and were going to live forever. (Actually, now, I think we do "live" forever. (Have you noticed that Tom and I both tend to write with nested parentheses?))). It must be the programmer in us. And the ‘cycle chain did break one cold night coming back from Bob's. The only thing that saved my fingers was my very heavy, thick leather mitten. We stashed the bike behind the guard rail and caught a ride from Bill who was following behind us. Tom has drifted away from riding. I started riding ‘cycles again in '93 - Hondas of course. I think AUO enjoyed sharing our experiences in PMR.

As time passed at the Lab, we both began to have uncontrolled and controlled discrete OOBE at home, as did our wives, who also spent some time in the isolation chambers at the Lab. But our experiences were still mostly subjective. Their immediate reality implied they were not just Lucid Dreams. We were looking for some "proof." As Tom kept saying after our first simultaneous trip in NPMR, "This stuff might actually be real." (MBT, B1, S1, Ch10) My Big Aha! moment came later after I had stopped going to the lab and was reinforced three years later. We described these experiences during an interview by April Hannah in Toronto about "The Early Days," which was filmed by Mike Habernig. This interview will be incorporated in a future release at The Path. We began to learn there is more to SpaceTime than meets the eye. The three intrepid Astralnauts (Tom, Nancy-Lea and I) charged off to where no (wo)man had gone before (at least that's what we thought). "THIS STUFF IS REAL," as Tom said. But you can't take our word for it. You have to do it yourself, as he repeatedly reminds you in MBT - with open minded skepticism. If you are not already meditating, I suggest you start practicing a method that will enable you to empty your mind of all the internal self-generated thoughts / noise so you will be able to recognize information that comes from NPMR. Our OOBE were a useful - but not necessary - way of introduction to NPMR (your mileage may vary). OOBE were called Astral Projection in older works.

Have you ever fasted? After indulging ourselves from Thanksgiving through Christmas cookies and the resultant avoirdupois, Tom & I decided to only drink water for the 1st week of Jan '76. We were young and in good health and anticipated no problems. Going without food for 7 days, and tapering into / out of it, was a unique mental experience - as well as physical. We had hunger pangs for a couple of days until ketosis set in and felt cold as our metabolism and body temperature dropped. We learned that eating was a family social activity and how good food smelled - so we had to go elsewhere while they ate. There was a mental clarity and meditation was better. The sense of time changed without the punctuation of three meals a day. I think it helped to loosen the ties to PMR a bit. And (coincidentally), I had my Big Aha the day I started to break my fast. The realization that I don't need food carries through to today and missing meals is no big deal.
Tom and I already knew we were strange - perhaps certifiably (I can hear the voices in your head.) - so it was comforting to see the EEG results that were taken at the UVA Sleep & Dream Lab (Bob Van de Castle had visited Whistlefield several times, as well as one of his researchers). We took one of my Binaural-Beat tapes with us to his S&DL and listened to it during the RV experiment. (MBT, B1, S1, Ch10) Our internal states were observable externally and the remarkable EEGs noted by Duke reassured the scientific parts or our minds giving us more "proof." Humbly speaking, Tom and I were the right persons with the right experience at the right place at the right time. We turned out to be a synergistic dyad. We willingly contributed our expertise, time and efforts at the Lab and Bob Monroe shared his knowledge and experience with us, opened our minds and consciousness and changed our lives forever. Thanks, Bob, wherever you are. And thanks to Jane and Seth for the books that provided an initial framework for interpreting our experiences.

I had studied extremely low frequency - ELF - phenomena and Schumann Resonance during research for my MSEE on Diurnal Frequency Variations of the Earth-Ionosphere Resonances (1966) and my Chairman's work on ELF radiation effects on living organisms. So when I read the Oster article in the Oct 73 Scientific American (another coincidence?), and thinking about the Silva sounds, I realized that Binaural Beat (BB) sounds should be able to have an effect on our brainwaves and state-of-consciousness. I made the first BB tape for our research at the UVA EE Department during spring break 1974. My discovery really turned out to be The Breakthrough that we were seeking (MBT, B1, S1, Ch9). Confirming our subjective experiences, EEG measurements subsequently published by a number of researchers clearly showed that BB initiated a frequency-following-response and entrained brainwaves that were correlated with various states of consciousness. Bob Monroe began to incorporate BB sounds into his training tapes and, through trial and experiment with us and others, optimized them into what was later to be known as Hemi-Sync, which he patented in 1993 and '94. However, Tom and I later realized that BB were useful training wheels or a stepping stone to consciousness explorations but not essential. Binaural Beats are now in wide usage for various applications as you can readily see by Googling "binaural beats" Little did we know how our work would Live Long and Prosper. If you want to discuss BB, see me at the MBT workshop in NYC April 30 - May 2. This workshop is an opportunity you can't afford to miss. I hope to see you there. (I am looking forward to seeing Ron again too.)

With best wishes for decreasing your Entropy,
Dennis.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:01 pm 
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Hi Dennis! I hope you can read this. Hey, I'd love you join the forum and post at least once in a while. I loved your post. You are so spontaneous, and you are not afraid of saying just how you felt it. I'll take into account your fastening. I might try it.

Well you gave me a boost with your post and I think you caused a high drop of entropy in this board!

All the best for you and your family!

Edit: thanks Keith for doing this! You're great!

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Fantastic and thanks so much for making this article available, wonderful stuff

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 2:20 pm 
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Keith and Donna,

Thank you so much for making this available!

Dennis,

Fascinating account of the early days of your, and Tom's, explorations! That was awesome. I also think you three were destined to meet up at your work and then go on to work with Bob. Who knows what would have happened if you and Tom hadn't come along. There might be no Hemi-Sync as the world knows it today. And no Monroe Institute anymore either and that would definitely be a great loss. It has transformed many minds over the years.

I really enjoyed the story of you guys attending the Dalai Lama's talk and Tom's perceptions of his aura. I hope Tom gets a kick out of this but sometimes getting that kind of story out of Tom is like getting blood out of a turnip! : ) (Just picking Tom. You know I appreciate all that you do.)

Thank you a lot Dennis.

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That was a great read! :)

The part with Dalai Lama was interesting, and the fasting part was inspiring.

I am wondering, can you explain more about "The realization that I don't need food carries through to today and missing meals is no big deal. " I saw a documentary some time ago, about an Indian mystic who never ate anything. They had a bunch of scientists isolate him for some weeks, and he ate nothing. They did blood test every day, and he was fine. He said that he "collected" the energy from the sun in the back of his mouth, which manifested to some nourishing substance (If I remember correctly).

Can you tell me more about the process or mechanism, which involves one not having to eat, just curious :)


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>> missing meals - - I can't tell you anything about your Indian who ate nothing for at least extended periods. We only did it for a week in '76. I did it for a week again about '81 but for other reasons and drank orange juice and took vitamins. Knowing that I could do it for a week gives me the knowledge that I can do it for a day. Before condsidering a fast do some research and consider your reasons for doing it and the status of your health.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting
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Hi Dennis:

Welcome to the board. I am glad that you joined. Later.

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Thank you Keith and Donna for posting and Dennis for writing! Looking forward to meeting you all in New York at the end of this month :)


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Great Stuff.

Thank you for sharing Dennis, it's interesting to hear those adventures told from another person, more to come?

Those days must have been something else, huh, hanging out with the - Wizard of Whistlefield
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My thought on that no food thing is that the lower your entropy, the less energy you need from food. High entropy activities are leaks on the system and as you plug the holes (lower your entropy) you maintain more use-able and re-usable vibrating re-circulated energy.

Tom doesn't seem to eat much....
A cracker here, a grape there, some yogurt, water : )


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Wow Dennis Great to see you here!

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Yeah! This is cool, I hope Dennis stays around, would be great to hear his views on MBT and stories from days gone by.

I knew of a lady here who fasted for half a year on water alone, even made it in to the newspapers! My religious orientation is Jainism (similar to Buddhism) and we are encouraged to hold fasts for one week continuously during the year if we can during, allowed to drink water only and not after 6pm. It's an arduous task and I've only fasted for one day. Three of my friends have actually done it for well over a week on water alone though they don't meditate or anything like that. So it is possible.

It's supposed to lead to self discipline and focus.

http://bit.ly/9QaD9j

Here's the article on the Indian man who lives on sunshine and water.
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It has been widely reported that studies have confirmed a 62 yr Indian man while being observed in a hospital 24 hours a day for 120 days maintained a normal level of activity by only consuming Water and Gazing at the Sun!

Doctors from his native India as well as Scientists from Penn State and Thomas Jeferson University in the USA have independently verified this phenomenon and named it the (HRM) effect after the mans name Hira Ratan Manek.

Manek a mechanical engineer who refers to the human brain as a "super computer" and the eyes as a "keyboard" says that "Solar energy absorbed through the eyes eliminates mental illness, physical illness, spiritual ignorance, and makes life happy and peaceful." He explains sungazing is best done barefoot on dirt and that the most important safeguard is "the sun should Only be viewed in the last hour of sunset or the first hour of sunrise." It is at those times that the sun is emitting virtually no harmful ultra violet rays" (meaning UV index of 0-2) Manek reportedly hasn't eaten solid food since 1995 but on occasion will drink buttermilk or have tea while entertaining guests.


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specialis_sapientia,
>> missing meals - - I can't tell you anything about your Indian who ate nothing for at least extended periods. We only did it for a week in '76. I did it for a week again about '81 but for other reasons and drank orange juice and took vitamins. Knowing that I could do it for a week gives me the knowledge that I can do it for a day. Before condsidering a fast do some research and consider your reasons for doing it and the status of your health.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasting
dnns0227 / Dennis
Hey Dennis :)

Okay, I see what you meant now.

I remember where I saw the documentary now. The documentary about Buddha boy, I recommend it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v29clGMWU84 (part 1)

Here it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzNAZE2gaBY part 4.


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Fun thread!

Here is Manek's website, including the how-to of it:

http://solarhealing.com/


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Have just read with great interest Dennis's article in my email inbox (the MBT newsletter), so good to see the thread here, and especially Dennis's own post! I echo the hope that you'll post again now and then, Dennis. Thanks to Keith and Donna for another really good issue of the newsletter!

I tried fasting for 2-3 days about 20 or so years ago; it had been suggested to me as possibly helping my Irritable Bowel condition at the time. The lack of food didn't bother me too much, but what made me stop were the crushing headaches I got, which meant I couldn't sleep or rest properly. I did try a shorter fast a few years later, but the headaches came again, so it's perhaps not the thing for me!

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The headaches could have been from removing caffine, if that is one chemical you stopped then.
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