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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:34 pm 
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Faith, Religion, and God in the Big Picture


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:41 pm 
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Look at Tom's eyes. He is not blinking. His eyes are fixated into something unknown and unseen to others.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:27 pm 
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Look at Tom's eyes. He is not blinking. His eyes are fixated into something unknown and unseen to others.

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I don't see it Lena.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:26 pm 
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Funny you say that Lena, I noticed the very same thing numerous times in the video. That is the "Long stare" we have heard about.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:04 pm 
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He processes more than one data stream at a time. Most of his consciousness is elsewhere.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:47 pm 
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Tom has stated many times exactly what Linda just said? That he is and has been for some time consciously working in multiple realities at once, especially during interviews and talks.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 12:24 am 
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I don't think anyone was stating that he goes the entire video without blinking.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 4:36 am 
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Of course he is blinking during this hour. He is not a superman in a cartoon or movie sense. He is much more, than a regular human being and it is a pleasure to see and observe.

I think this is very generous of Tom let us witness who he is and to see and learn what consciousness is capable to achieve. Anyway what we see is just very much a surface of who he is. There is a Russian saying, a big thing can be seeing only from a distance. I don't wish to make Tom more or less, than he is. Today he is Tom Campbell.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:04 am 
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I suppose I actually share Lena's sort of infatuation or amazement regarding Tom but I am also sympathetic to Bette's concern regarding the dangers of cult of personality, or simply the nominal impression thereof to the outside onlooker.

perhaps we can become the cult of "men who stare at sofas" ; - )

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In all seriousness..

There is the science of this and then there is the impression of this, and how we interpret it. We could explore this by actually measuring the blinking and then comparing it to a baseline.

In the interpretation, the culture of MBTOE has to make a decision regarding how to talk about Tom, even if it is evident that he is not a normal human.

Something might be sincere and true, but not be helpful. I might believe there is evidence to suggest that Tom could be Jesus returned, but that would be a very weird thing to say. Its probably more likely that Tom interacted with with senior management, and they trained him to think a certain way, and Tom reflects the same thinking of Jesus and the other effective spiritual instigators.

That being said, he does not go to absolute effort to appear normal. There was that video a few months back where he attempted to teleport to the studio of the interviewer, and she nervously chuckled that she definitely saw a shimmer of an image.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:18 am 
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Tom does describe interacting with senior management as The Big Cheese, as Tom's mentor before the present BC took office. Tom does describe the purpose of his project here, the changing of the paradigm of science if narrowly viewed, as being instigated by senior management in NPMR. Any super natural abilities that anyone might wish to attribute to Tom are as Tom specifically teaches, not super natural but simply the way things work as opposed to the way present science thinks that they work.

Furthermore, Tom specifically opposes the concept of MBT being converted into a religion and of himself being attributed guru status or other special status. What Tom can do, he specifically points out as being what we can all do, if we sufficiently develop our own Intent and put in the hard work and consistent practice.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:05 am 
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In no way I wish to see MBT become a new Bible and Tom to be proclaimed a new prophet, guru, Messia or returning Jesus.

I hope it is clear, that to see and acknowledge someone's abilities and greatness is not the same, as idolize or worship this person. It takes an extraordinary person to write MBT.

I admire Delai Lama, Mother Teresa, Jiddu Krishnamurty. They represent to me the kind of entities/consciuosness/IUOC we all, one by one and each one at one's own time, could become in a future.

Seeing Tom as a returning Jesus or a new prophet is not only counterproductive, but it shows a misunderstsning of MBT and who Tom is. We don't know what was Jesus's message to his followers, since the gospel's authors were not his immediate students, and lived much later after his death. I do not wish to argue about New or Old Testament, because my knowledge on a subject is too limited, but what is more importants, MBT is not another gospel of Newest Testament.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 9:01 am 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-GHeYjgoUo

Skip my bit and go straight to Tom at 3.05 + for what I think is one of these "absent intervals". I first witnessed one of these when I went up to chat with him at the London workshop. He was "away" for some time before gathering himself back to say cheerio to me :)

But we do have to be careful not to ascribe something special to every Tom senior moment of course.

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To ponder such a thing, one needs first to have some clarity regarding what Jesus likely was, when interpreted through the lens of Tom's model, and then not put arbitrary belief limits on what Tom could be.

The data to me suggests one might be interacting with a very unique entity, and its not completely irrational to ponder that he could be the same IOUC as Jesus. Maybe yes, maybe no. Not such a big deal either way, if looked at correctly, TOEishly.

If you are open enough to accept Tom at face value, based on the strange things he says about himself and the greater reality, performing crap like bilocation, then you are no more down the rabbit hole by thinking that his IOUC could be part of the management pyramid.

Even if he were such a thing, there is no need to go down the primordial path of Pharoah worship, which is a distraction from dealing with our personal BS.

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Tom in his books and elsewhere as here on the board makes it clear here that he is not and makes no claims to be a part of management. Merely that he once knew (and of course still knows) the present Big Cheese who served as Tom's mentor before he took on the new office.

What he does describe himself as being, putting it into perspective as generalities, is a team player, a general analyst and trouble shooter. Not unlike the kind of work that he describes doing as a physicist here on this trip into PMR. He's the sort of general purpose non-specialist analyst and problem solver, perhaps one could say 'super mechanic' or 'super technician', with a talent to enable him to take apart a complex system that is broken or at least working poorly and probably is not well understood, figure out what is wrong with it and how to adjust it or fix it and make it run correctly. Sort of a metaphysical James Bond, without the sex and violence. He knows how to scan a system and cut to the chase without getting lost or confused in the complexities. This is a great talent to have and is in even more short supply, as I see things, than management ability or a propensity to spiritual leadership.

So with these actual and rare abilities, perhaps you can see why he gets called on by management for a project such as this. Also why he is disinclined to let himself be cast into a 'great guru' role and MBT converted into a religion. That would be contrary and damaging to his purposes here, unnatural to his personality and disposition, and counter productive to the changes that the local system management seems to desire to be made in our local PMR society as its guiding paradigm. I suspect that this is not the first time that this kind of paradigm was attempted to be put into place here, probably by religion as a pathway. It did not seem to work at least twice. This time they seriously want to stay away from the religious path as probably too prone to dead ends and misdirection. Putting things into the metaphors of science and mathematics which are more easily comprehended and less prone to being misstated and diverted. Generally accessible and understandable to a higher percentage of the IUOCs functioning here as opposed to the metaphors of mysticism.

Try that on as a clarification as opposed to further muddying the waters.

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He's not really looking at anything. His eyes are turned "off" so as to have more focus on his thought process.


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