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file:///C:/Users/Usuario/Desktop/Quantum%20experiment,%20my%20b%20toe.pdf
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Sorry, this is the place where you can download the experiment

http://www.ijqf.org/archives/4105
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It's a further confirmation that local realism is invalid - so it does not upset Tom's theories. Interesting that the experimenters believe in human freewill ;-)
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Direct link to audio file of Tom providing additional information and addressing criticisms re proposed experiments:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1WuNxIk ... h91Nv/view
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This recent article in Scientific American argues the case for Consciousness as the basis of everything; it references the double slit and the delayed choice quantum eraser experiments. It doesn't get around to mentioning a simulation, but seems to provide a good theoretical springboard for Tom's experiments:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... mechanics/
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vzam wrote: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:56 am This recent article in Scientific American argues the case for Consciousness as the basis of everything; it references the double slit and the delayed choice quantum eraser experiments. It doesn't get around to mentioning a simulation, but seems to provide a good theoretical springboard for Tom's experiments:

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/ob ... mechanics/
I read the article first, then read the who the author was - Kastrup !

It's a much improved article considering the usual materialistic fodder that comes from Scientific American.

Thanks for the link, Vzam.
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Lately, Scientific American is trying to show itself a little more broad minded.
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Yes - what's even more interesting is that it is the most popular article by a long way...
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vzam wrote: Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:38 pm Yes - what's even more interesting is that it is the most popular article by a long way...
I'd like to hope that's true, since it might be a sign of progress in the aggregate of the Species, but I've got no reference point to base a judgement. Is there additional information that would serve as a sort of citation on this particular article ?
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I just found this video. Very interesting.
It briefly explains how quantum mechanics needs no consciousness.

[Youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_t380X1_2A&t=110s[/Youtube]
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The opposite is true:quantum mechanics needs consciousness. That is what is going to be proven with the coming experiments.
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Whilst I applaud Tom's aims and efforts, I do sometimes wonder if he's not being a bit over-optimistic when he says that learning we are living in a simulation would make for a kinder, gentler world.

He has pointed out frequently that people here in PMR are mostly fear-based. That being the case, it seems likely that a sizeable majority will consider that we live under the sway of reptilians, greys or similar evil other-dimensional beings, particularly if civilization unravels as a result of climate change, habitat destruction, species extinctions, the international debt crisis, resource depletion and so on (these problems are unfortunately not going to disappear even if his experiments are successful).

The only way I can see his views being accepted is if there is enthusiastic international cooperation to tackle the huge problems our civilization has created.

Does anyone think this analysis is unreasonable?
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vzam wrote: Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:15 pm
The only way I can see his views being accepted is if there is enthusiastic international cooperation to tackle the huge problems our civilization has created.

Does anyone think this analysis is unreasonable?
Based on my understanding of consciousness as the only reality, you pose a very interesting if/then.

First, if Tom's experiments prove that we live in a simulation and are accepted by the scientific community then there would be international acceptance of his view that we live in a simulation. Accordingly, there is no correlation between the acceptance of the simulation view and international cooperation as they are mutually exclusive.

Second, would it be more likely that worldwide awakening to the reality of consciousness and the simulation could create enthusiastic international cooperation and a greater probability of a kinder, gentler world that could address the aforementioned issues?
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I believe that Tom thinks that if people start to realize their purpose for participating in this PMR is to evolve the quality of their consciousness, it will make a great deal of difference to a lot of people. Almost everyone stumbles through their lives not knowing why they are here.
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I agree with your comment, Linda. If everyone would try to "be" a kind person, not "act as one" everything would be better for each one and for all of us.
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