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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:05 pm 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQXNhXw-5NA


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That is a great video that is quite to the point, however how does that or rather, how does the Hemi-Sync / Monroe Institute audio programs assist in getting through the issues that Tom mentions? They seem quite different, the idea of calming the mind down to the being level and getting an OOBE with audio cues vs rifling through your personal ego and weeding out your faults to obtain an OOBE. Can someone clarify the connection or the strategy of the Hemi-Sync programs for OOBE and why that would be effective in obtaining an OOBE?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:54 am 
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That is a great video that is quite to the point, however how does that or rather, how does the Hemi-Sync / Monroe Institute audio programs assist in getting through the issues that Tom mentions?
If you have not read either the MBT Trilogy or Monroe's books, I encourage you to do so. In Monroe's "Ultimate Journey" the INSPEC sums it up: "You are being human when your fundamental focus is within such concepts of consciousness. Change this fundamental and you are no longer human."

The Hemi Sync/Monroe audio programs are tools to explore consciousness. In "ultimate Journeys" Monroe states that after 20 years of OBE/exploring consciousness, he realized that the prime need was to know oneself. He then turned inward and asked for help. Tom is telling us to know ourselves at the being level. In order to accomplish that we must peel back the layers of ego-SELF. Tom tells us this takes effort and time, for some among us 20 years or more. This has been my own experience. It is the quality of the experience at the being level that is the goal as is defined by the INSPEC.

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They seem quite different, the idea of calming the mind down to the being level and getting an OOBE with audio cues vs rifling through your personal ego and weeding out your faults to obtain an OOBE. Can someone clarify the connection or the strategy of the Hemi-Sync programs for OOBE and why that would be effective in obtaining an OOBE?
The use of binaural beats can be an effective tool if you want to experience an OBE. Monroe in "Ultimate Journey" provides "points of help":

1. Always know and remember: you are more than your physical body
2. Recognize and control your survival drive
3. Maintain your transient status
4. Enjoy life but do not become addicted to it
5. Exercise your human mind fully-good and bad
6. Let human mind seek out experience, beware of illusion
7. Mind has a proclivity to make things what they are in "the there"

As I understand it.....

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 8:19 am 
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Hey jdjr,

Nice reference sources.

This morning in the Dream State, I connected to a Data Stream that was obviously from the Future Probability Data Base. It was a detailed Dream, but not of this life. So, as far as that goes that was a change for me, the level of detail.

Thanks Dinah, for the link, the Dream State experience seems to indicate I'm making progress, as little as it is. Still got them Fears, lurking in my Waking State, though -:)


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:48 pm 
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Last night I dreamt that I was part of a Chimpancee group of 4, that I was able to imitate them so well that they thought I was also a Chimp.

Is that an evolutive, or an involutive dream?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 2:49 pm 
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That is a great video that is quite to the point, however how does that or rather, how does the Hemi-Sync / Monroe Institute audio programs assist in getting through the issues that Tom mentions?

Hemi-sync and Binaural beats DON'T actually do anything to sort out those issues of Fear and Ego.

All the Audio Tracks do is to set up the conditions under which the 4Hz Theta Brain Wave pattern (Or whatever Beat Frequency of the audio track) is more likely to manifest. The Audio serves only as Brain Wave "Entrainment" or "Encouragement" and has no inherent capacity to reduce fear or Ego.

Hemisync simply helps you get "There" and helps keep you "There". Resolving the issues is up to you once you're "There"...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:35 pm 
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Last night I dreamt that I was part of a Chimpancee group of 4, that I was able to imitate them so well that they thought I was also a Chimp.

Is that an evolutive, or an involutive dream?


Hmmm, I'm not sure.


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Last night I dreamt that I was part of a Chimpancee group of 4, that I was able to imitate them so well that they thought I was also a Chimp.

Is that an evolutive, or an involutive dream?
Religious Cowboy The devout cowboy lost his favorite Bible while he was mending fences out on the range. Three weeks later, a chimpanzee walked up to him carrying the Bible in its mouth. The cowboy couldn't believe his eyes. He took the precious book out of the chimpanzee's mouth, raised his eyes heavenward and exclaimed, "It's a miracle!" "Not really," said the chimpanzee. "Your name is written inside the cover."

Edit: http://jokes4us.com/animaljokes/chimpjokes.html


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 5:29 pm 
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Hey jdjr,

It seems you URL is off :-)

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2018 7:45 pm 
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Hey jdjr,

It seems you URL is off :-)

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Hey Robert,


http://jokes4us.com/animaljokes/chimpjokes.html

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:22 pm 
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Thank you for the Chimps jokes.

Now I feel really close to chimps. Maybe I will go live with them.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2018 4:59 pm 
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Thank you for the Chimps jokes.

Now I feel really close to chimps. Maybe I will go live with them.
Did you catch the MBT Global Family Facebook page that had a link on a 59 year old chimp that was likely preparing for her passing since she wouldn't ear or drink ?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:59 pm 
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No, I didn´t RBM, which is the link?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:18 pm 
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Here's a Google search page on it, since I couldn't find it where I originally saw it:

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp ... jpAT86BDqg


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:35 pm 
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thank you.


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