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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:04 am 
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Hello,

I don't know if anyone is interested, personally I don't have the time, but I think Tom would make a wonderful candidate for this contest, and I doubt he will nominate himself.

http://www.oneminuteu.com/default.taf?page=contests

OneMinuteU has teamed up with The Learning Annex to find the next great guru! We're loooking for a top teacher, someone who can change millions of lives by sharing his or her expertise. Could it be you? The winner of this contest will receive $250,000 estimated value comprised of some or all of the following, or their substantial equivalents: book contract, speaking tour, cover on The Learning Annex magazine, product development. The estimated value is determined in the sole discretion of Sponsor. THE "$250,000 ESTIMATED VALUE" IS NOT A CASH PRIZE.

To be considered simply submit your video to OneMinuteU.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:15 am 
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Hi Lynda:

Shouldn't you ask Tom if he wants to be selected? May be he does not want to. If he wins, he has to commit to it.

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Lynda I'm pretty sure this is what Tom is trying to AVOID, okay. We are all Gee U R U's.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 3:47 pm 
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Yea I agree, "guru" is a pretty high entropy classification, due to it's label of "importance", so I don't think Tom would want that. I don't think he'd want to think he was more important than anyone else. AUI wouldn't like that.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:24 am 
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vestal wrote: I don't think Tom would want that. I don't think he'd want to think he was more important than anyone else.
This is why I wish he would offer his thoughts in the Oprah thread.

Honestly, I don't see how nominating him as the next great teacher and placing him in contention for a quarter million bucks is all that different from calling Oprah and telling her to have him on, or contacting CMN.

When you get past the semantics, you see they are teamed up with the Learning Annex and they are looking for a top teacher who can share his expertise. Does this not sound like Tom to you?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 10:30 am 
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This seams to be counter-productive. Associating the term "Guru" with Tom would damage his credibility, especially since the only motivation that is apparent is the 250 000 dollars.

It's the same with Oprah. This is not material for popularization, because our culture will turn it into something it should not be.

Letting it grow slowly and "natural" seems like the best option.


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Here is a nice Krishnamurti video that fits here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ReWW3Ef ... re=related
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specialis_sapientia wrote:This seams to be counter-productive. Associating the term "Guru" with Tom would damage his credibility, especially since the only motivation that is apparent is the 250 000 dollars.

It's the same with Oprah. This is not material for popularization, because our culture will turn it into something it should not be.

Letting it grow slowly and "natural" seems like the best option.
I agree. Oprah's show to me is a cheap entertainment, and a huge money making machine. (Sorry, don't mean to offend anybody, who is Oprah's fan.) In my opinion this is a bad publicity for Tom. It will attract many people, who are looking for a fast solution for their problems, whatever these problems are. Those who are looking for MBT will find it sooner or later in accordance with their development. "Guru" and Tom are not compatible by any means. Applying for this contest will create a false image of Tom and his writing. In my opinion the board members should try to stay as far as possible from this kind of populism, if we don't want to become another New Age group. In this case a quantity will never become a quality. It is very easy to cross this border line. Unfortunately, as soon as there is a movement toward New Age or something similar, it is no way back to where is has begun.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:26 am 
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The thing is Lena, many people already do consider MBT New Age...

I've always hated the term "new age" because it's too broad. But if you think about it, many of the things MBT talks about and supports is "New Age"

For example, Guides, PSI, Past Lives, Non Physical Reality, Telapathy etc...These all orginated in "New Age". They've been in New Age books for many decades. Visit any New Age section in a book store, and you'll find that New Age talks about all of these terms.

The difference is, New Age chooses to arrive at these conclusions through meditation and MBT arrives through science, but the terms are all still "New Age" and rejected by conventional science.


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Well, I don't know whether Tom would be interested in this or not, but it an opportunity. I think the contest used the term "guru" tongue in cheek. It sounds like they are looking for someone inspirational with information that can change lives.

I think anyway to bring MBT to the masses would be a good thing. It would be over the head of many but it might also spark new ideas in others.

And yes it will be deemed "New Agey" to many because of it's explanations of NPMR. But many people may be ready to be exposed to this.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:00 am 
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It's "Neo New Age", but then I do love redundancy. We could call it "Old Age", but there are so many negative meanings associated with the metaphor already to make it almost useless. ;)
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Sainbury wrote: I think the contest used the term "guru" tongue in cheek. It sounds like they are looking for someone inspirational with information that can change lives.
Thank you Sainbury. Like I said, they wanted a teacher to share his expertise, what better way to describe Tom?
I quote the man himself, from page 112 of the version available on google: "Today I work as a physicist in an engineering services company specializing in missile defense research and development, and if you saw me or worked with me you would not think that I was the slightest bit strange. Yet, in another environment, away from the workplace, I help guide the development of a small group of students and other people interested in increasing the quality of their consciousness."
He may shy away from the word teacher but face it, between his books and his DVDs and his posts in this thread and everything he's doing in NPMR, that's what he is!


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AeroLynda123 wrote:He may shy away from the word teacher but face it, between his books and his DVDs and his posts in this thread and everything he's doing in NPMR, that's what he is!
Many people, I am one of them, for different reasons would stay away from self-proclaimed (or with a help of his disciples) teacher, guru, Masters and so on. I don't see, that Tom is teaching anybody. We don't have to think like Tom, accept his words as a truth and blindly walk step by step behind him. We can argue and been disagree with him, doubt his words. On a contrary, Tom is repeating time and again, think for yourself, be skeptical. I hope I can make myself clear, I don't think that Tom sees himself as a teacher, and we have to respect it. This a very fine boarder line between what is MBT now, and how easy it can become a new religion or a cult in 10-20 years from now. This is very serious matter and we will be responsible for this! We need to be very cautious how we present Tom to those, who never had a chance to read MBT, this board, or listen to his lectures.

Read this topic again viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4120&hilit=cult I don't want to say, let's be afraid that it can happen. Let's not make it happen.

On a top of that, don't we have to respect Tom's wish do not be called a teacher?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 9:16 am 
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I think of Tom as an example. I mean besides being a really nice guy, really nice.
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Sainbury wrote:Well, I don't know whether Tom would be interested in this or not, but it an opportunity. I think the contest used the term "guru" tongue in cheek. It sounds like they are looking for someone inspirational with information that can change lives.

I think anyway to bring MBT to the masses would be a good thing. It would be over the head of many but it might also spark new ideas in others.

And yes it will be deemed "New Agey" to many because of it's explanations of NPMR. But many people may be ready to be exposed to this.
I don't think we have a right to do things like that against Tom's will, not consulting with him only because it can create a bigger audience for MBT.

Words can be deceiving, and somebody's interpretation of 'guru' may have totally different connotation, much stronger, no tongue in a check at all. We don't want to start a confusion of who Tom is, and why it is good to read MBT. I am afraid, that my opinion is not popular, and most people don't see any problems, which can arise after these kind of steps will be taken.

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