I am well aware of the pace of time having a difference between reality frames. Though it is largely incorrect that the dreaming reality is not parallel with our own, it is to a very large degree. It's more than a dream when there are large time discrepancies between the waking - and NPMR state.
I will try to be more clear and outline why "relatives" won't hang around.
- They are rarely connected to you in a deeper way, that constitutes a NPMR relationship.
- The PMR experience packet fades away like a dream, how much energy do you spend on a single dream after it's done?
- The PMR relatives have their own evolution to take care of when they have transitioned, they won't feel very attached to the biological relatives in the prior experience packet. Evolution goes before human PMR thinking and beliefs.
- When you can have almost perfect simulations of the relative welcoming you, why should the consciousness system not make use of it?
- There might not be any rush, but their incentive for them staying longer won't be because of earlier biological relatives
- If you think PMR relatives have a consistent relationship during NPMR, explain why the hundreds of others of fathers, sons, daughters, sons, husbands and mothers aren't there to greet you. It's always the latest family, never more than that.
I completely disagree with Seth (or Jane's expression of Seth with certain limits) on that particular stance. It's not logical.
This might be relevant on that: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2721&start=15
You didn't comment of the Explorer tape, so I assumed you didn't listen to it.
Please do so, you will listen to an actual rescue of a lost man, and you will hear why he sees his relatives. It might be hard-hitting.
I'm not saying that you would see relatives from tons of lifetimes. I'm talking about that immediate lifetime. I'm sure the "love" bond would diminish over lifetimes, but I can see the possibility of seeing your relatives that have passed from your last lifetime, IF they haven't entereed into a new PMR.
I really don't have a stance on the whole Past is concurrent with the future concept. Just relaying the info that I've heard from Seth and other extensive meditators/explorers. Who really knows. but I can regarding your comment on Seth's comment not seeming "logical" is that there are plenty of scientists that
would say that the concept of "there is no death" isn't logical either.
What I mean by the dream reality having different time compression than our own is that often you will have a dream and do things that normally would take a full 8 hour day in PMR, but after going through those same events in a dream, you realize that only a few minutes has passed. So you ask yourself, how were you able to compress that 8 hours of activity in only a few minutes time. That's all I was trying to get at.
I'll listen to that recording, but then who's to say that it's just not the way that he's interpreting the experience. There may be other experiences that one reads or hears about that's just the opposite, so I guess the bottom line is that none of us will know FOR SURE, until we ourselves die. Tom's interpretation of his out of body experiences and rescues seem to be different than John's which may be different than Jane's etc....I guess we will never truly know for sure until we experience it ourselves..Otherwise it's just interpretation. Who knows, perhaps Tom and other out of body travelers are all such different experiences so that they themselves can make more sense of it. So perhaps the real truth will never been known until we ourselves pass on. ....