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Just curious if anybody has read this and what they thought. I am about half way through the audio version and am finding the break down of ego to be very useful. This is my first time coming across Eckhart Tolle. I was a bit disappointed to find his website full of "stuff to buy to make you better". At least that is how it felt... perhaps just my fear of being fooled. Anyway, I'm finding it to be a good book in terms of ego work; some really great insights.
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I've read his first book "The Power of Now" and found it to be quite good, and it complements MBT nicely. As you can imagine, it's mostly about living in the present moment.

I've been wanting to read A New Earth but haven't gotten to it yet. I'd be curious to hear what others have to say as well.
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You all might consider going back and reading Meister Eckhart, the mystic that is the basis for Eckhart Tolle having chosen his first name. Some of his thoughts:

Nothing exists outside of God, except for the nothing itself.

The eye with which I see God is the same eye with which God sees me.

There exists only the present instant... a Now which always and without end is itself new. There is no yesterday nor any tomorrow, but only Now, as it was a thousand years ago and as it will be a thousand years hence.

He who would be serene and pure needs but one thing, detachment.

If you would have the kernel, you must break the shell.
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msagansk wrote:I've read his first book "The Power of Now" and found it to be quite good, and it complements MBT nicely. As you can imagine, it's mostly about living in the present moment.

I've been wanting to read A New Earth but haven't gotten to it yet. I'd be curious to hear what others have to say as well.
I would love to hear what you think when you start reading it.


Ted, I will check out Meister Eckhart. Thank you.
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I've read them both and found them to be most helpful. As a previous egotistical self centered unit of consciousness, "The Power of Now" was most appreciated as it helped me to better understand how the mind can be a dis-ease: The Power Of Now: A Guide To Spiritual Enlightenment (1999), it is the mind which is the largest obstacle to self‐realization. Many peoples’ minds are out of balance, constantly racing between thoughts. Although it may seem that we are in control of our minds because we can use them to solve a problem or focus on a project, Tolle states that if we cannot turn off our minds, we are being used by them. As such, the mind is destructive. Tolle states, “You believe that you are your mind. This is the delusion. The instrument has taken you over.”

"A New Earth" is good as well, I feel that the majority of MBT folks would find it as thought provoking as I did.
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Jake wrote:I've read them both and found them to be most helpful. As a previous egotistical self centered unit of consciousness, "The Power of Now" was most appreciated as it helped me to better understand how the mind can be a dis-ease: The Power Of Now: A Guide To Spiritual Enlightenment (1999), it is the mind which is the largest obstacle to self‐realization. Many peoples’ minds are out of balance, constantly racing between thoughts. Although it may seem that we are in control of our minds because we can use them to solve a problem or focus on a project, Tolle states that if we cannot turn off our minds, we are being used by them. As such, the mind is destructive. Tolle states, “You believe that you are your mind. This is the delusion. The instrument has taken you over.”

"A New Earth" is good as well, I feel that the majority of MBT folks would find it as thought provoking as I did.
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wow!! the eye that I see with is the same eye with wich god sees me
I am being controled by my mind? this is great stuff and I am loving it!!!


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Eckhart Tolle very effectively depicts the nature of ego in a clear and simple manner. He also identifies an individual 'pain body' and a collective 'pain body' - which he terms as a body of energy consisting of egoistic thoughts and feelings that gather over time and feed on more of the same kind of emotion. In the same way, ego grows steadily stronger whenever it identifies with physical material form, noticeably: possessions (including people), power and the perceived physical image. The trick is to recognise and then observe the ego when it gets up to its clever tricks. In so doing, one becomes a superset of consciousness in which the ego exists, the I that watches I - and the ego loses its illusory power over our conscious minds.

As Justin says, Tolle's books are extremely useful tools for learning to recognise and manage the ego and fear. They sit on the shelf right alongside my 3 MBT books. His website is very commercial, but tons of his lectures are available for free. Ubik's youtube channel is a goldmine for Tolle I have found (thanks for your great contributions Ubik!) - like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHUhCrhvH1M (Tolle: Transmission of consciousness).

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PS - Thanks for the Meister Eckhart points, Ted. They're really good.
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Jake wrote:"A New Earth" is good as well, I feel that the majority of MBT folks would find it as thought provoking as I did.
I agree. A common question after reading MBT seems to be "now what?" It seems to me that these teaching are in fact the what.
pgtrue wrote:wow!! the eye that I see with is the same eye with wich god sees me
I am being controled by my mind? this is great stuff and I am loving it!!!
lol. I was listening to A New Earth on a road trip this Christmas with head phones. My wife thought I was going nuts because I was getting so excited about what I was hearing. Like being underground and finally seeing the first tiny bit of sunlight make its way through a crack.
nickalosomo wrote:Eckhart Tolle very effectively depicts the nature of ego in a clear and simple manner. He also identifies an individual 'pain body' and a collective 'pain body' - which he terms as a body of energy consisting of egoistic thoughts and feelings that gather over time and feed on more of the same kind of emotion. In the same way, ego grows steadily stronger whenever it identifies with physical material form, noticeably: possessions (including people), power and the perceived physical image. The trick is to recognise and then observe the ego when it gets up to its clever tricks. In so doing, one becomes a superset of consciousness in which the ego exists, the I that watches I - and the ego loses its illusory power over our conscious minds.

As Justin says, Tolle's books are extremely useful tools for learning to recognise and manage the ego and fear. They sit on the shelf right alongside my 3 MBT books. His website is very commercial, but tons of his lectures are available for free. Ubik's youtube channel is a goldmine for Tolle I have found (thanks for your great contributions Ubik!) - like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHUhCrhvH1M (Tolle: Transmission of consciousness).

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Really great summary Nick. "Commercial" is a good way to describe his site. The teachings (and I realize that they have been around before Tolle in some form or another), are simply too amazing to bypass based on the commercial feel of his programs. Like you said there is plenty of free info. Thanks for pointing out Ubik's channel. And thank you Ubik for the channel. The lack of commercialism is one thing that I really appreciated about MBT and Tom, and something that made me take it more seriously when deciding to read all of those pages. Anyway, great post.

The thing about the this type of wisdom is that it cannot easily be argued or debated as to if it is true or not. It puts all of the responsibility on self.

My wife and I were having a discussion the other night that slowly turned into an argument. It took all of my might to try and stop to see what it was that my ego was trying to accomplish. It was so attached to what it wanted that it simply would not let go. I suddenly pictured something mentioned in A New Earth I believe. It was a metaphor... something along the lines of all of use being little silver balls constantly bouncing and colliding into each other, but slowly becoming brighter and more polished because of it. Ha! "It is happening right now!" I realized. It was a small and obvious intellectual realization, but also a deeply profound realization at the being level. A shift of sorts that words won't do justice in describing. I immediately started laughing and smiling. I could not stop. It was a burst of joy. I think even the ego laughed until it realized it was laughing. I did my best to explain the whole thing to my wife. We sat in happiness for a moment and then apparently became a little bit brighter. Amazing, this life thing.
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Life is profound indeed ;0)

I found 'The Power of Now' and 'A New Earth' to be perfect springboards for preparation for MBT. I was already starting to lower my entropy from what I read in those two books (not calling it that of course at the time), and then Uncle Tom's 2009 London lectures showed me what purpose lay beyond. Given all I had read and experienced at that stage, it was the perfect epiphany. Every bell Tom hit resonated powerfully, and so the journey to self continues...
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Hey watch it Justin, you are giving marriage a good name. :)
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Eckhart is the man. I really enjoy his talk and gives me good example how a low entropy being can be.

As I know, his site became more and more loaded with stuff to sell, but I don't think it really matter. He was very poor before he wrote the power of the now, and he enjoyed his life very much. As people got more and more interested in his stuff, the business grew by itself.
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"A New Earth" is a very interesting and useful follow-up to "The Power of Now", which I personally found more valuable.
I have absorbed a lot of Tolle's teachings and it helped me in making me a lot more conscious than I would have been otherwise.

But you must remember one thing: His teachings are not an absolute. It is meant to point the way to your own consciousness.
Not to teach you some new trick or certain knowledge.

Also... he is not the only one with this understanding, but he definitely is a conduit for it.

If you can separate the form from the function, it will provide you with a great teaching.
If you come to see Tolle himself as some rock star with value that only he can provide, you'll be missing the point. :)
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Welcome sylvanrou. What you said can be used here as well, I'd say.
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but I must admit I would love to see "tommy the swammy" lol, he is like a rock star
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