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Tom talks very little about UFOs. In fact I've just searched 'UFO' in the MBT Google book and got precisely zero hits. From what I've heard him say from youtube clips he suggests they are most likely perceptions of other reality frames. Whilst I agree this is probably the case for some, there is such a wealth of PMR evidence for UFOs I thought I would list a few here:

Not all UFO sightings are lights in the sky. Some of them land and leave evidence:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/physi ... ecases.htm

Here is the audio recording of deputy base commander Lt Col Charles I. Halt as he investigates a landed UFO on an army base
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxdNsSwMeDQ

Objects perform feats way beyond all known capabilities of conventional craft including acceleration that a human pilot wouldn't be able to cope with.
UFOs tracked on radar:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/radarcases.htm

Scientific analysis of implants:
http://www.openminds.tv/technical-analy ... en-impant/
Abductess have implants removed that are analysed by scientists who conclude they are of intelligent design but that they couldn't replicate them themselves.
Youtube video of a removal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZGC9rV9-mU

DNA analysis:
http://www.starchildproject.com/
"While the physical anomalies obvious in the Starchild Skull are very impressive, only DNA results can absolutely prove that it is other than human ... However, the most recent tests have uncovered DNA so different from human that the working theory is now at minimum it is a new species, and very likely it is an alien species of extraterrestrial origin."

Derrel Sims works with abductees who have fluorescent markings that match their accounts of where they were handled by ETs:
http://www.operationaliendna.com/fluorescence/

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One of the things Tom said about UFOs is that once someone describes the experience in a certain way then other people experiencing something similar will likely describe it using metaphors they have heard of. So you can't take these descriptions too literally.
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Sainbury wrote:One of the things Tom said about UFOs is that once someone describes the experience in a certain way then other people experiencing something similar will likely describe it using metaphors they have heard of. So you can't take these descriptions too literally.
But we can take scientifically testable physical evidence a bit more literally than people's descriptions ...

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A thread in which I discussed my opinions related to this subject -> viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6963 - Has any other truly awakened people seen Ancient Aliens TV ?
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What scientifically testable physical evidence?
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AscensionAddiction wrote: DNA analysis:
http://www.starchildproject.com/
"While the physical anomalies obvious in the Starchild Skull are very impressive, only DNA results can absolutely prove that it is other than human ... However, the most recent tests have uncovered DNA so different from human that the working theory is now at minimum it is a new species, and very likely it is an alien species of extraterrestrial origin."
This is wrong though, read this: http://www.theness.com/index.php/the-starchild-project/

Human DNA confirmed, and the skull is likely from a case of untreated hydrocephalus (I would advise people against looking it up).

A relevant thread:Interactions with beings in other lab-type realities
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Sainbury wrote:What scientifically testable physical evidence?
The links I posted.
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ingerul9 wrote:A thread in which I discussed my opinions related to this subject -> viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6963 - Has any other truly awakened people seen Ancient Aliens TV ?
Thanks for the link to the other thread. I agree with your posts. I also like Bashar's stuff too.
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specialis_sapientia wrote: This is wrong though, read this: http://www.theness.com/index.php/the-starchild-project/[/url]
Thanks for this link. To be honest my knowledge of genetics doesn't enable me to debate the finer points of this, but I would suggest the link demonstrates it is a debatable and controversial topic, rather than definitively concluding it is wrong. The article doesn't directly addresses all the points of the latest DNA results found here:
http://www.starchildproject.com/dna2012.htm
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Not to sound like a know it all or anything but my daughter and I were just talking and she mentioned I seemed to have a handle on death and the big things to which I replied that UFOs were still a mystery to me, thank goodness. :)

I am preparing mentally to contact Giorgio, George Noory, and one other new guy to the A.A. theory who I can't recall his name at this moment (Wilcox)to have us go through A.A. evidence to see what is left if we looked at all of it thinking accessing probable futures is what happened. To see how much can be explained by realizing figures that look just like modern astronauts are just that seen in the past. That the god coming down in the triangle shaped capsule was a astronaut in a capsule returning from space in a probable future thread. That's what all the gods myths are based on, people back then seeing a probable future thread of what happening in our space program. The "gods" fighting in the sky, war dog fights as seen as a probable future thread anyone. See?

Whatever is left after that will then remain mystery for a while longer.
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I remember Tom said somewhere, that it was time, when NPMR-PMR connection was much more open and many people were aware of that. It did create a PMR developmental problem. Some NPMR entities, we can think of them as Greek and Roman gods and goddesses in a western cultures, gods of American Indians, Hindu gods and etc., started to be very heavily involved in PMR experience and it was spoiling a whole purpose of PMR existence as a learning lab. Rules were changed, and communication became almost impossible for human beings. This is my interpretation what Tom said.

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While in Atlanta last weekend, Donna and i produced about 3 hours worth of interviews (Donna being the interviewer) and this very subject was discussed in some detail. It should be up on YouTube in a month or so -- as soon as Keith can get it ready.

The bottom line in my "UFO data often represents artifacts of consciousness" hypothesis is that the LCS, being in complete charge of generating PMR and our data streams, can produce whatever hard or soft physical evidence/experience it wishes (individual or collective) at any time or place it wishes and in any form or way it wishes -- for example: crop circles. The PUP provides constraints while opening minds to a reality greater than what is supported by our cultural beliefs provides motivation. The same motivation (an eye opener... a cultural belief buster... forcing one to live in a larger box) lies at the root of many individual or collective paranormal/synchronicity experiences as well. Once one's conceptual box expands significantly for any reason, it is far easier for it to expand further and in other directions. UFOs are not considered "normal" by traditional science, thus think of them as just another class of paranormal events/possibilities designed to pry minds open to a larger view of existence and weaken a typically mindless aliegence to the "normal" picture as presented by our culture. That makes their potential to exist within PMR no more or less real than your body, trees in the woods, or the people next door.

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So Tom, do you think the UFO are exclusively generated by the LCS, as to provide nudges, or do you think it maybe possible, that other platforms that IUOC are playing have created a form of travel within the rule-sets, that could bring them here. Light speed i think would have to be broken or bypassed. Sabby
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Tom, from what you're saying, you're viewing UFO's (and I presume aliens who occupy the UFO's) to be merely instruments in a human-centric universe. It's like you're saying they exist for the purpose of our enlightenment.

I think when people are asking about your views of aliens, they mean, would they exist if people didn't view them.
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Sabby,

I do not know and possibly Tom does. However did you note the article that I posted on the board that described research that looked at so called dark matter and energy in the vicinity of Earth and this system? Dark matter and energy are calculated throughout all of the observable universe as being there in order to make the behavior of galaxies and solar systems to interact as observed on a universal basis of universal physics rules. I have referred to them as fudge factors. What that article described is that no dark matter and energy are calculated in this vicinity. This makes this vicinity 'special' in the same way that for instance it was once thought that the sun circled about the earth as the center of all cosmology. This makes this vicinity 'special' again in some way. But to me it thus also points out that there are unlikely to be others 'out there' as 'out there' is an iffy proposition now in a Virtual Reality. It might just be 'lights in the sky' after all. Of course, they might figure out that they had made a mistake. Live gracefully with the uncertainty.

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